OK guys I think this is supposed to air tonight.
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Nightline program with segment on JWs has been changed until tomorrow night.
by AndersonsInfo ini was at a criminal trial all day in murfreesboro, tn, involving the notorious jw who i call "mommy molester," angela montgomery.
this is the reason i didn't know until this evening that the nightline program with the segment on jws was changed until tomorrow night.
(i forgot my phone.
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Nightline program with segment on JWs has been changed until tomorrow night.
by AndersonsInfo ini was at a criminal trial all day in murfreesboro, tn, involving the notorious jw who i call "mommy molester," angela montgomery.
this is the reason i didn't know until this evening that the nightline program with the segment on jws was changed until tomorrow night.
(i forgot my phone.
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So from what I understand is that the show will air tomorrow night Thursday the 12th or early Friday morning the 13th depending on what time zone you are in. I hope that is right. Still looking forward to watching it and thank you Barbara for keep us up to date on this.
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Who leaves first, the husband or wife?
by snugglebunny inwhen it comes to a simple matter of no longer believing the teachings of jw's, it appears to me that it's more common for the husband to make the first move to leave the religion.
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I left and my husband is still in. It is all so clear to me that it is a cult. I was a born in my husband is a convert. To me it is just amazing that he can still believe with everything that he as seen and that has happened to us. I also know that the religion is more deeper ingrained in me than him also as it was all I have ever known. He was in the world and has more education, etc.
I just do not get it. I do not feel it is a man versus women way of thinking. I think it is just using your brain period. JW's don't. If they did they would see it is a cult, but they will not think that is the whole problem. They let others think for them.
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You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15
by cappytan incheck this out.
got this bound volume from my dad.. .
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I was just like your wife who grew up hearing this stuff. I was five when that Awake came out. I was not supposed to go to grade school much less high school. I believed it all so much as I was spoon fed it from the cradle. My parents were never really accepted by the JW's. My parents were always fighting with the elders but they still went to most of the meetings, the book study was so boring, mind-numbing and so full of doom and gloom for a five, six year old to sit through but it was so scary also. I thought for sure that my whole family would be killed when 1975 came. I actually had a count down to when I would die. I mean what child lives that way. It was horrible.
But like your wife I totally embraced the religion and believed everything it said. I pioneered even through I hated ever minute of it. Talked my husband in to applying for Bethel which we did for 2 and a half years and that was way better than pioneering but still left nothing for the future by taking the vow of poverty. Than I finally woke up when I was in my late 40's. The pedophiles in my hall just hit me in the face that there was no way if there was a God that this was the true religion. But my husband still believes.
I am now in my early 50's scared to death about my future as I was told not to save money or get any education. My husband is older and I just feel so stuck and scarred. I also totally get it about your kids. My sister and some of her elder wives friends were shunning me when I was still an elder's wife myself. I have been shunned by a lot of the so called friends. Even when my husband was in his elder's meetings there would be groups of at least two elders wives and I was not allowed to join any of them. One group spent their time gossiping and they did not want me there and the other group was related mom and daughters who's husband were elders and I was not included in that group. I have met for service many, many, many times and have been told to just go home as there was not room for me in the car groups. Why I did not wake up sooner is beyond me. I wish I had, had a husband who saw though it like you did.
Your are so right where you said It's a cult!
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March JW Broadcast: Once again disparaging Higher Education - this time in the Music Video.
by cappytan ini will have the music video separated shortly.
will post the link once it's done..
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The part in the video about the time can't be replaced. They got that part right. All the years I spent pioneering and living on nothing, sitting in the car for hours on end waiting for my elder husband to get down with his elders meetings. Driving around aimlessly for hours and hours because no one wanted to go door to door just killing time to get pioneer hours in. Working at Bethel and being told I was lazy because I could not lift 90 pounds over my head day in and day out. I could go on and on.
No those hours cannot be replaced thus I will have to work until I am about 75 to 80 to make up for all that waste. How I wish I could turn back time and go to collage, get a good job so I could enjoy some part of my life.
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Anybody interested in Judah Ben Schroeder? Here's two links. See if you can find who Judah works for. The info is in the first link.
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://theworldnewsmedia.org/charlotte+schroeder+%28may+9,1920+to+june+19,+2013%29.
and here's how judah looks as seen in a recent video - especially posted for those who knew judah over the years.
closet factory testimonial from judah schroeder.
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Magwithch is right he has aged!!! a ton. I remember eating lunch at his table with is dad during open seating when we were at Bethel. I was never into worshiping the GB and so they both meant nothing to me they were just people that happened to sit at my lunch table. His dad kept asking me about where I came from and logging as it was a hot topic at the time with the spotted owl thing. I do not remember Judah even speaking to me at that time. I was just not that impressed with either of them they were just people.
It just seems so unfair that he was allowed to go to college and yet when I came back from Bethel I was rebuked and slammed for taking class that my job paid for. After all I was an elder's wife and I should be setting the example as the systems end was so close why did I need any college education?
I guess that did't apply to Judah.
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Thanks Mad Sweeny for posting that. I had to work and am so glad to be able to see it. It just makes me so sick that they are seeming to get by with it. It's the same fight I had and the same excuses they used toward me. I -
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What is the furtherest your car group traveled to a return visit that counted as time?
by adjusted knowledge ingrowing up i lived in the middle of florida in the southern part.
i had a friend whose father was an elder, and would stay at their homes during the weekends.
one of the "rules", as we all know jw love rules, was that who ever spent the night had to go out in field service on saturday.
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When we pioneered as a newly married couple that is all we did was drive. We would make one call in town than drive an hour and a half to the territory do five to six homes than drive to the other end of the territory another hour drive and do a couple of doors five or six then drive back to where we had been. I am a very active person so sitting in the car that long I was going crazy.
Plus no one wanted to use their car in service so they would all pile into our small Honda Civic. My husband would pack 7 into our car. 4 in the back and 3 in the front. Even though I was the wife and half owner of the car I always had to sit in the middle of the back set as the brothers had to sit in the front and the sisters all sat in the back. There was not enough seat belts for everyone of course and my husband said that it was OK for them not to be belted in because the law said you had to wear a seat belt but if there was not one available for use that it was OK for them not to be belted. I was always holding my breath that we did not get in a accident as the third person sitting in the front straddling the gear sift would have been killed.
Looking back it was total craziness. Our car would bottom out all the time with all the weight in it. Plus it looked insane for this tiny car to come up to someone's home packed with people and everyone had to have their turn which meant that sometimes half the car would have to get out to let those like myself trapped in the back to get out then when we came back to the car they would get back out to let us in. I used to be so miserable as I would most days only get out three or four times in 8 to ten hours of sitting. And to top it all off most of the other pioneers hated me and would not speak to me. So here I am packed into my car and everyone talking around me like I am not even there.
I was so depressed that I would sometimes think of bring a razer blade and slitting my wrists no joke, I really just wanted to die, I hated my life so much. I would wonder if anyone in the car would even care if I bleed out or if they would just stop the car and shove me out and keep driving.
Looking back those times just seem so dark and depressing and sick. Whenever I would bring up that it was crazy and insane to drive and drive and drive and drive and drive, plus no one helped us with gas money so it was all our money being wasted, I was told the angles were watching and happy we were trying to reach just one person.
It's all just so sad and crazy.
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The WBATS has officially become a Fortune 500 company they are going public Monday buy your shares soon while they LAST!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS inwith the recent leak and viewing of the elders video on the new standard construction kingdumb halls the rank & file brobots have officially become employees of a billion dollar publishing and now real estate company, equipped with 7 ceo's and many businessmen as shrewd and as money hungry as any rival fortune 500 company.. the new kingdumb halls look like (i have to give it to them) expertly designed commercial properties that any major office, restuarant or commercial leasing company would package as a ultra versatile space!!!
the old kingdumb halls where a tough resale to the general public because of the custom designing aspects of the old kingdumb halls.
they have completely done away with that issue with these new versatile properties which can be converted to an office/restaurant/repair garage/clinic.
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It's just amazing. And no one that I have heard in the JW world seems to think this is a money making project. Just amazing how blind the want to be. -
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Musical video on JW-TV February monthly program - must see !!
by Viva la Vida inyou must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.
at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...
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How about the house that the cart is parked in. When my husband and I pioneered we lived in a 1950's mobile home that the rent was dirt cheep. We ate bean's and rice so as to put all of our money pioneering. We would never have dreamed nor could we even have afforded a home like that one in a our wildest dreams. Where I live now that home would cost 250,000. How do you pay for a home like that flopping whoppers part time because you did not go to collage.
What about all the brothers we hear about all the time in Africa who swim through crocodile infested waters to get to the meeting carrying their cloths on the heads. How fair is that to those poor brothers who sacrifice their lives every time there is a meeting. It's all we hear about in the year book. Yet this couple live in a very nice home and by the ocean.
Must be hard to pioneer now days.
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